How many people need to die from an unsafe unproven technology.
people's fear comes from technology being commonly faulty. no one trust technology to virtually not fail because tech reputation is bad and video's like this doesn't make the situation any better. for people to gain some kind of trust their has to be an entire generation of technology not failing or at least be 99.99.997% safer. that 00.003% of technology failing can be covered off just like people dying from a cold which has a higher percent chance of death
Why, when the driver notice the car was breaking didn't take control of the car? The driver can take control of the car at anytime. This is the drivers fault.
I think the person fell asleep with FSD on. I'm not sure but didn't tesla roll out that safety feature that if you don't acknowledge the prompt to grab the wheel the car will pull over and stop as a safety measure. IDK but I believe the tesla driver might be on the hook for this if that is the case. Also the cars behind him weren't paying attention either. So for sure their insurance is gonna go up. You should never hit someone that's stopping in front of you. Period. They were probably texting or distracted driving themselves. Not to leave tesla out of the equation. If it was that pull over feature. The car needs to know better than pull over so fast, it should have used emergency blinkers and it should have waited until a real shoulder. So many variables. I really want to know what actually caused this accident and glad it was on camera. These tesla's get the short end of the stick every time something happens. Even before the investigation. No innocent until proven guilty for tesla. 🤦♂
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What happens if all the vehicles behind the Tesla's were Tesla and all was in FSD mode. Could all the vehicles stopped in time and avoided the accident? The technology is available, just saying.
Simple, I stop, you stop, can’t stop, your too close…I stopped the car, tesla stopped the car, this all matters not. Your too close! I stopped just to piss you off, I’m now in the wrong too, but your still close to stop and still partially responsible. A preventable accident is one in which you have done everything you could have reasonably done to avoid it.
No different than the way massholes drive every day..
From what I saw, the tesla slowed down below traffic speed with no brakes, put on its turn signal, and then it braked for 4 to 5 seconds. It was rear ended before it came to a complete stop. If other car slowed down when it saw the lane change indicator, then they could have easily avoided an accident. Furthermore if, by any chance, the tesla driver fell asleep and Autopiloit attempted an emergency stop where there is no shoulder , then Autopilot may have actually saved lives .
Maybe set up by Hedge Funds who are shorting the stock.
Had a similar situation happened in my model three was in the lane furthest from the crash going through the tunnel when the car took control and swerved when no one was near me, with no FSD. Very odd!
When FSD is activated, and you ignore the periodic prompts to touch the steering wheel there is an audible prompt in some what of a moderate volume with increase frequency/tone along with a visual on the dash showing a red steering wheel (Model S/X). If you continue to ignore… hazards will come on, car will start slowing down and eventually come to a stop within that exact lane you are in.
I've always thought of this behaviour as being unsafe. It should, turn on the hazards well in advance, start navigating to the most furthest right lane, pull over, turn on all lights and continue to have the audible alert and visuals going off. I understand "pulling over" to a shoulder from an FSD perspective itself may be unsafe depending on the road you are on, but it might be better than stopping within the same lane.
In the case of this video, considering the hazards are NOT on, and the car attempted to move into the left lane we can tell that this wasn't due to the behaviour I describe above. Instead, this car may very well have been on FSD where it was in the process of looking to make a lane change, noticed something and attempted to slow down / come to a stop. In this sceanrio, the car would not have made any prompts that it was taking this action. If the driver was attentive during this sequence, the easy by pass to this is to hit the accelerator to overide. If however the driver wasn't attentive for those few seconds in between the "are you touching the steering wheel" prompts and the car noticing something ahead, then it's likely the car reacted to seeing something ahead and slowing down / coming to a stop.
As to what it saw ahead, can't answer that, as personally, I haven't experierencied any phantom like objects that would disrupt it like this. I only experience this when ppl are making left turns in front of me from the opposite side at a signal and the car reacts by doing the above.
Isn’t this kind of accident legally on the people who did the rear ending, however? Seems as though clearly going too fast in relation to distance of the cars in front of them, and not paying enough attention.
The Tesla driver wasn't doing his job, and should have taken over long before the car stopped, and on top of that the other drivers were following too close for the speeds they were driving.
I wouldn’t be taking the driver’s word for anything at this point.
Interesting watching this. I have had similar incidents when entering an underpass in my town as well. Hard breaking and I was forced to take o er immediately in order to avoid causing an accident.
Hope they are able to identify the issue here.
Interesting
I think FSD will improve faster if people like you don't make excuses. My experience with fsd is that it handle restricted roads (one lane that can be windy) better than multilane straight roads. I live in Irvine California and we have a lot of well planned multilane surface streets. Wide and straight. And fsd tends to have problems figuring out which lane to be in. Random braking all the time even though no cars are around. When I have a route and I have a right turn (straight road, 90 degree normal turn) coming up in about 1.5 miles, sometimes it'll go into the left lane (3 lanes in each direction) even though no car is around. And then when it suddenly realizes it needs to turn right it'll veer into the right lane very late, sometimes cutting off a car. And it's so slow at handling intersections. People come up to the intersection, then look left and straight. And then make a right turn. But tesla will stop short of the intersection, spend an eternity creeping forward then pause and then finally turn right. It's so embarrassing. I'm worse than a grandma to these drivers who don't realize I'm in fsd. Sometimes tesla is so slow that it's embarrassing. And worse, a lot of drivers can't predict what my car will do so they stay away. But the random braking occurs all the time. It's like a person that drives with 2 feet.
This accident was not caused by the Tesla stopping. Tesla or any car. You're supposed to be traveling at a safe distance to account for any car, not just a Tesla that abruptly comes to a full stop. The Tesla didn't just stop it slowed down, and them stopped. That should have given anyone driving at a safe distance time to slow and stop also. The Tesla is not at fault for this pile-up. Increasingly, I see people all over Dallas riding right on the @ of the car in front of them. People need to stop doing that.
If my car pulls over it doesnt do it into a left lane… I would expect it to merge to the right if there is an issue with autopilot.
maybe he removed the foot from the gas pedal. That will make the car stop.
It doesn’t matter you are supposed to be paying attention at all times if he knew the car was slowing down, he should have hit the acceleration pedal people. Want to make excuses and blame the car where is the interior video or from the car?
never get out of the car in a car pile-up
How many people need to die from an unsafe unproven technology.
people's fear comes from technology being commonly faulty. no one trust technology to virtually not fail because tech reputation is bad and video's like this doesn't make the situation any better. for people to gain some kind of trust their has to be an entire generation of technology not failing or at least be 99.99.997% safer. that 00.003% of technology failing can be covered off just like people dying from a cold which has a higher percent chance of death
Why, when the driver notice the car was breaking didn't take control of the car? The driver can take control of the car at anytime. This is the drivers fault.
I think the person fell asleep with FSD on. I'm not sure but didn't tesla roll out that safety feature that if you don't acknowledge the prompt to grab the wheel the car will pull over and stop as a safety measure.
IDK but I believe the tesla driver might be on the hook for this if that is the case.
Also the cars behind him weren't paying attention either. So for sure their insurance is gonna go up. You should never hit someone that's stopping in front of you. Period. They were probably texting or distracted driving themselves.
Not to leave tesla out of the equation. If it was that pull over feature. The car needs to know better than pull over so fast, it should have used emergency blinkers and it should have waited until a real shoulder.
So many variables. I really want to know what actually caused this accident and glad it was on camera. These tesla's get the short end of the stick every time something happens. Even before the investigation. No innocent until proven guilty for tesla.
🤦♂
AI robot kill 29 scientists in 2019, AI is dangerous open ur eyes 👀
What happens if all the vehicles behind the Tesla's were Tesla and all was in FSD mode. Could all the vehicles stopped in time and avoided the accident? The technology is available, just saying.
Simple, I stop, you stop, can’t stop, your too close…I stopped the car, tesla stopped the car, this all matters not. Your too close! I stopped just to piss you off, I’m now in the wrong too, but your still close to stop and still partially responsible. A preventable accident is one in which you have done everything you could have reasonably done to avoid it.
No different than the way massholes drive every day..
From what I saw, the tesla slowed down below traffic speed with no brakes, put on its turn signal, and then it braked for 4 to 5 seconds. It was rear ended before it came to a complete stop. If other car slowed down when it saw the lane change indicator, then they could have easily avoided an accident. Furthermore if, by any chance, the tesla driver fell asleep and Autopiloit attempted an emergency stop where there is no shoulder , then Autopilot may have actually saved lives .
Maybe set up by Hedge Funds who are shorting the stock.
Had a similar situation happened in my model three was in the lane furthest from the crash going through the tunnel when the car took control and swerved when no one was near me, with no FSD. Very odd!
When FSD is activated, and you ignore the periodic prompts to touch the steering wheel there is an audible prompt in some what of a moderate volume with increase frequency/tone along with a visual on the dash showing a red steering wheel (Model S/X). If you continue to ignore… hazards will come on, car will start slowing down and eventually come to a stop within that exact lane you are in.
I've always thought of this behaviour as being unsafe. It should, turn on the hazards well in advance, start navigating to the most furthest right lane, pull over, turn on all lights and continue to have the audible alert and visuals going off. I understand "pulling over" to a shoulder from an FSD perspective itself may be unsafe depending on the road you are on, but it might be better than stopping within the same lane.
In the case of this video, considering the hazards are NOT on, and the car attempted to move into the left lane we can tell that this wasn't due to the behaviour I describe above. Instead, this car may very well have been on FSD where it was in the process of looking to make a lane change, noticed something and attempted to slow down / come to a stop. In this sceanrio, the car would not have made any prompts that it was taking this action. If the driver was attentive during this sequence, the easy by pass to this is to hit the accelerator to overide. If however the driver wasn't attentive for those few seconds in between the "are you touching the steering wheel" prompts and the car noticing something ahead, then it's likely the car reacted to seeing something ahead and slowing down / coming to a stop.
As to what it saw ahead, can't answer that, as personally, I haven't experierencied any phantom like objects that would disrupt it like this. I only experience this when ppl are making left turns in front of me from the opposite side at a signal and the car reacts by doing the above.
Isn’t this kind of accident legally on the people who did the rear ending, however? Seems as though clearly going too fast in relation to distance of the cars in front of them, and not paying enough attention.
The Tesla driver wasn't doing his job, and should have taken over long before the car stopped, and on top of that the other drivers were following too close for the speeds they were driving.
I wouldn’t be taking the driver’s word for anything at this point.
Interesting watching this. I have had similar incidents when entering an underpass in my town as well. Hard breaking and I was forced to take o er immediately in order to avoid causing an accident.
Hope they are able to identify the issue here.
Interesting
I think FSD will improve faster if people like you don't make excuses. My experience with fsd is that it handle restricted roads (one lane that can be windy) better than multilane straight roads. I live in Irvine California and we have a lot of well planned multilane surface streets. Wide and straight. And fsd tends to have problems figuring out which lane to be in. Random braking all the time even though no cars are around. When I have a route and I have a right turn (straight road, 90 degree normal turn) coming up in about 1.5 miles, sometimes it'll go into the left lane (3 lanes in each direction) even though no car is around. And then when it suddenly realizes it needs to turn right it'll veer into the right lane very late, sometimes cutting off a car. And it's so slow at handling intersections. People come up to the intersection, then look left and straight. And then make a right turn. But tesla will stop short of the intersection, spend an eternity creeping forward then pause and then finally turn right. It's so embarrassing. I'm worse than a grandma to these drivers who don't realize I'm in fsd. Sometimes tesla is so slow that it's embarrassing. And worse, a lot of drivers can't predict what my car will do so they stay away. But the random braking occurs all the time. It's like a person that drives with 2 feet.
This accident was not caused by the Tesla stopping. Tesla or any car. You're supposed to be traveling at a safe distance to account for any car, not just a Tesla that abruptly comes to a full stop. The Tesla didn't just stop it slowed down, and them stopped. That should have given anyone driving at a safe distance time to slow and stop also. The Tesla is not at fault for this pile-up. Increasingly, I see people all over Dallas riding right on the @ of the car in front of them. People need to stop doing that.
If my car pulls over it doesnt do it into a left lane… I would expect it to merge to the right if there is an issue with autopilot.
maybe he removed the foot from the gas pedal. That will make the car stop.
It doesn’t matter you are supposed to be paying attention at all times if he knew the car was slowing down, he should have hit the acceleration pedal people. Want to make excuses and blame the car where is the interior video or from the car?