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  1. "The old cars had a bug where they couldn't receive software updates over the air. So unfortunately they're rolling out the .0 update in stages by sending technicians around to cars to update them. But that's fixed with 2.0"

    Source: The Fisker employee in the parking lot while dropping off the car

  6. Lmao, this is the only review where the OP just sits in the car and talks. the only OP that does it. LMAO, i want to see him drive something…at some point lol.

  8. @Autofocus It is hard to manufacture cars. Car startups have their ups and downs. You already know it from Tesla Motor's initial quality issues. Fisker is another startup up that is trying to bring EV cars to the consumers. It takes years and years to perfect a product like a car. It is sad that people are putting a running water hose in Fisker's mouth when it is sinking. Consumers gave Tesla more love on its Quality Issues than they are giving to other EV startups.

  17. I was so excited about this car, but I was out once they announced the official pricing. After all the communication about the trim levels and prices, the official pricing seemed like a bait and switch (suddenly it seemed like all the features listed as standard for each trim were now add-ons). Spec’ing the model out I wanted originally went from $69k to closer to $90k. So glad I got my refund and sold all my shares then. Fisker is dead, and I feel bad for anyone that spent all that money on an Ocean.

  18. This review makes zero sense. He bashed the cyber truck for horrible craftsmanship. Horrible panel gaps and just said well it's tesla. The only thing he liked about it was the attention he got from it. And somehow, this is the worst car reviewed. He took the time to bash on fisker on a Vinfast review. Tell your bias without telling me you are bias. Software is horrible agreed, but build quality is superior to most cars. There is great quality Control.

  19. You might want to review again annoying, buggy … worse ever car named "Cyber – finger cutter"? 😂 That also doesn't update OTA and keeps customer stucked by the road unable to call support from the car?

  23. It seems like more and more comapnies and customers are embracing "live service" products, like what we see with video games. And this leads to more products with conplexities that are fundamentally limited by service life. For peopek who lease cars, this isn't as much of an issue, but the reality is many people buy something costly like a car and actually want to keep it, or at the very least have it maintain its value.

    I wonder how things would go if the car market was divided from the factory into "vehicles for lease" and "vehicles to own". As a car guy, the forner category is of no interest to me, but who knows, maybe it would be for some.

  29. I'm a heartbroken Fisker Ocean Extreme owner and I agree with almost everything in this review. I also mostly agree with the previous one and I really don't want to. Also if Marques had spent more time with the car he would have found so many more UX issues.
    1. My Ocean Extreme did receive its 2.0 Update over the air. It required me to manually accept it and consciously unplug and lock the vehicle while it updated.
    Note: A Fisker engineer did come to look at it after the update for other issues I'd reported. IIRC there was also conversation about updating the key fob…
    2. You can manually push the button on the left side of the steering wheel to turn the parking brake off even if your seatbelt is not on

    ⚠ – If you are stopped at a light and you shift too much in your seat, the car shifts into P and unlocks the doors.
    ⚠ – If you open the driver side door it shifts into park and unlock the other doors.
    3. Bluetooth/Audio still has reliability bugs.
    4. I still lose 4G connection for multiple hours in a downtown area. When I do, both clocks on the vehicle's screen get out of sync and are both wrong (minutes are always accurate though.🤔)
    ⚠ – What happens to the 4G connection if Fisker goes out of business?
    5. It now supports multiple profiles but the profiles in the car don't seem to store much besides A/C settings 😞
    6. Spending engineering resources on a screen that only rotates when I'm in park and on fancy things like California mode was not the best move considering the state of the core experiences in the car's software.
    7. I did get locked in the car multiple times as did my wife. Hasn't happened since 2.0 update

    I've said it before, the single most concerning thing for me was the promise of a "2.0" update to fix all the problems. Who even cares about version numbers today? How many folks know what version number of Chrome they are running? Nobody even notices when Chrome updates. IMHO celebrating numeric releases of software today is an anti-pattern. Continuous delivery, feature-flighting, A/B experimentation, these are not things you can easily build in after the fact. Shipping without all of them was a mistake and has impacted their engineering agility.

    I'm a software guy at heart so I'm biased but I think one of the best moves Fisker could make would be to create a non-profit foundation to own and drive forward their vehicle OS stack by making it open source and leveraging the community of enthusiasts. Take 24 vehicles and give 2 a month to community voted top contributors over the next year. This would also bolster confidence for new buyers in the event of dissolution. If the Ocean could become an autonomous vehicle dev kit for companies like Wayve and it's competitors perhaps they could even move more inventory.

  30. I feel so bad for the employees of this company like the engineers who actually made a some good aspects of the car but cant see their work come to fruition

  32. I'm somewhat worried that this will become the norm as we start this heavy push for EVs. Receiving unfinished CARS because automakers have the excuse to update them over time after customers received them.

  34. I used to like MKBHD and respect him. This all has changed when he decided to review a car company and not give them a chance to do updates and instead revolt, go to a used car dealership to get the car and review the car in its current state. it undermines the thousands of employees working at that company trying to better a product everyday in a very new industry. He lost a lot of credibility to me when he used his voice and power to tarnish a brand and company in its infancy. I used to love watching this influencer, now I think he has lost his way, and when thousands of people get laid off because of his dogging of a product when he was clearly told they would be fixing it in a near update and to wait, he did not listen or respect that.

    Full disclosure – I don't have fisker, its stock, or its cars. I have another competitor EV company, but I can see this crossing the line and effecting thousands of peoples jobs who try to create a great product and go to market early due to economic reasons be undermined by a content creator who sits on his couch and produces nothing but videos and makes millions of dollars doing it.

  36. I dunno seems even more obvious this is personal with this guy ..guy says 60 secs to boot he literally shows in his video that's a lie ..it took 10 secs…all evs take time to boot up ..he's only mentioning with this car ,cause he has no other issues to say

  39. When fisker first launched I really wanted to try them out but they do not lease cars. My fear like many others was why buy a car and get stuck with it if there's software issues, repair issues or the company goes out of business. I really wanted them to succeed but it's kind of hard to succeed when you keep shooting yourself in the foot.

  41. I think the biggest issues seems to be fixed, but I agree that the software still seems way too slow, but I think many of Marques' gripes about 2.0 are being nitpicky for it to still be deemed the worst car he has reviewed. However, is the 2.0 too late for Fisker? Probably.

  42. It requires a technician needs to come out and do it? Even Harley makes it easy for their owners to update their software, which while requiring USB drives is really simple to do.

  43. i feel sorry for fisker. Theyve put a lot of effort and money into this. The business world is often cruel. If suffered in my skin business bankrupcies twice and it really destroys you emotionally. I wish them the best.

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