CyanogenMod and the Death of the Android ROM

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1. Well that was an nostalgic trip through memory lane

2. Adam and Ellis think they're sooooo smart… Andrew, Marques and David should make questions for them.

3. This episode hit all the nostalgia spots so accurately that I kept smiling all the way through!
   Oh and for the "wiping the device every nightly flash" – shout out to Micro SD for keeping all the important data on it!
   And who remembers flying through Recovery mode with the volume rocker and power button to select? 😁
   And lastly, Xiaomi's Rom was (still?) called MIUI that was SO different from stock Android, almost an iOS clone, with no app drawer, boxy icons and so on…

4. Absolutely amazed by this historical journey 🤩
   Samsung GoodLock is kinda the same right!

5. Lineage & PixelExperience basically kept 6T updated upto Android 13 just fine!

6. A good topic to discuss next time:
   How big tech uses open source to their advantage and doesn't credit the contributors. Aka FakerJS

7. Brings back great memories, I remember looking at the bottom of the XDA page once with a load of names and I thought wow this must be all the people online, then I realised it was all the people with birthdays today. Massively popular website. Great video 👍 I wanna buy an older phone and start flashing again 😂

8. A talk with folks also from DU, RR, AOSIP would've been awesome but anyways a nostalgic one.

9. I hope you guys continue doing this. I love learning new information about an old forum I used to regular when I loaded roms on my s3.

10. I said AMSTERDAM !!!! 😂😂🙌🏾😁 SO HAPPY lol

11. 1:32:25 is rel AF. Romming now is just getting a cheaper 2nd android phone and experimenting.

12. I've never owned an Android device so this was pretty new to me but I loved it. Thanks!

    I don't get the Starbucks joke near the end in relation to banking – is it a US thing?

13. this brings back so much memories. I remember I first started rooting phones with my oneplus one. All the way up to oneplus 9 pro, then switched over to the pixel 7 pro and just couldnt be bothered anymore. Xposed modules was one of the main reasons I rooted, there were just so many cool things you could do. Especially the snapchat ones where you could write unlimited lines, change fonts, save snaps without people knowing, view snaps/stories without them knowing etc. Then you'd have to try to hide your root with magisk and bypass google's safetynet otherwise banking apps, android/google pay wouldnt work.

14. This is probably my favourite episode in the waveform channel. Amazing investigative journalism David!!
    I remember the days of losing my whole text history every week when I would flash a new rom. Really brings me back. I’ve been on iOS since 2014 after there was a power drain bug in play services. But I still occasionally bring out my old android phones to relive the glory days of custom roms

15. I apreaciate how deep is knowledge of podcast "moderators"

16. I did a lot of flashing on my droid, galaxy S2 and note 3, HTC. Was an awesome time unlocking mods and mmaking your phone look cool.

17. 31:13 ITS SPELLED PHREAKING

18. Nexus did not skip 3, Galaxy Nexus was the 3rd Nexus and the second Nexus was Nexus S (that Marques skipped), which was also made by Samsung.

19. super nostalgic. reminds me when i got a OnePlus One purchase invite from someone in MKBHD's comments and installed OxygenOS for the first time

20. I hate triva

21. Was this a man or a woman the developer?

22. This is the first episode i watch fully on YTB (normally im audio fan). I went back to ROM (LOS) after using miui apps on sweetin, my digital life got divided between google and xiaomi services, and i had to decide which one of the two will stay permanently, i didn't want to have two apps for the same task (e.g two note taking apps), sure i could just disable miui apps, but that can break the miui sometimes and xiaomi won't give latest android for sweetin, so i'm just using LOS for: less bloatware and, not so important, newer major android updates. buts there are more benefits from using ROMs in 2023.

23. Yeha but Markass never talks about ROMs, Root, Gcam, privacy. 60% of the stuff he mentions during a review can be fixed with root and custom ROMs. Its very pretentious to ignore such a big fix.

24. Hopefully one day we'll get a manufacturer with only LineageOS and some good app devs!

25. Wow what a throwback session… Man I remember LATE nights flashing roms that sometimes bricked/deaded my phone and then spending hours more trying to save my phone from doom!

    I also remember buying the ORIGINAL OnePlus One (truly a great deal and the TRUEST "flagship killer" ever at $299 & $349!) Having CyanogenMod and me thinking what a BIG DEAL that was…

    Wow the 2010s man… Great tech decade even tho smartphones kicked off with Apple changing the game in 2007…

    And lastly i DIDN'T know Steve transitioned! When "Stefanie" showed up i recognized the name and thought that's the guy's wife?

    Crazy world we live in indeed 🤙

26. why the headphones? all of you in the same room

27. Thanks for the shout out

28. I still remember upgrading my HTC Wizard that ran Windows Mobile 5 all the way up to 6.5 and even giving it the then all new and flashy touch friendly interface. Of course the stylus still held reign back then. I was answering emails and looking up public transport info on the go. They had special light mobile websites back then and the national Dutch rail company was pretty early in the game with realtime platform numbers, departure times and delays. Keep in mind the iphone didn't exist yet and people thought I was crazy. "Why don't you just answer your emails at home?" was rather frequent question. Times have changed fast after that.

    Oh right. I ran my own Exchange server back in the day so i had all my emails, contacts and my calendar with me. Push mail was already a thing for me back then. We're twlking from as early as 2004 here.

    I skipped the iphone bandwagon all together. The first few models simply weren't as good and certainly lacked features I thought were important. I moved to Asia around that time also and wasn't really into big tech stories for a while. I jumped to Android in 2012 because of XDA and the openness of the OS. This is how the iphone never became a thing for me and why i still find it a rather boring platform. It's 90% marketing. Their marketing and not their tech is Apple's true masterpiece. I only wish I had learned about that kind of stuff in an earlier phase in life.

    Boy I feel old now. 😅

29. This is by far my favorite episode ever. This is like a walk down memory lane. ❤

30. Real nostalgia, reminded me of the plastic bricks i made😂😂, the deleted default camera app and many more things

31. Almost 2 hours discussing roms and never once mention PRIVACY as a reason to switch. Disappointing.

32. 1:03:53 the legendary "whoops"

33. Money is the rag that wipes away "Don't be evil".

34. skipped nexus s

35. Loved the history

36. That was totally awesome! That was totally totally awesome. Good job everyone. Okay, now I understand what chairs were switched😂😂

37. I completely accepted it was friday two days ago and came back because its actually friday

38. Man, I miss this era of phones. I flashed so many ROMs.

39. This episode means sooo much to some (but probably very little to others). This is like a history channel feature with too many vivid memories of an era that witnessed a totally different level of involvement with our phones, filling of multiple knowledge gaps, and loads of nostalgia.
    Thank you WVFORM team!

40. I remember putting custom ROMs on my first Android phones because the skins were absolute garbage.

41. Interesting to watch! I only got into custom ROMS a couple years ago (after the apparent golden age of flashing), but mostly because of experimenting with privacy protection. I feel like most custom nowadays are focussing either on that (CalyxOS/GrapheneOS), or on breathing life into older devices (Lineage). Stepped out of it eventually due to security concerns (0day bugs) and convenience (as you guys mention, many apps simply don't work on custom ROMs or the FOSS alternatives are just tedious to use). It's a shame though, FOSS is such a cool concept that I wish more people would embrace.

42. 👌

43. Stopped using ROMs because Android is good enough. Used Oneplus or Samsung, and it's ok. But those were the good old days.

44. This was my first time seeing a sidekick. I legit thought it was a digivice from Digimon.

45. This is probably the best waveform episode ever

46. His name was Rich Miner? Man, sometimes parents don’t know when to stop themselves.

47. 30:42 my mind is blown

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