Virtual Reality has a NEW gaming PROBLEM..The VR Game Trailer

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1. Really interesting to hear your thoughts on this subject matter
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2. I just played space junkies at a VR arcade while I was out in Idaho. My nephew his friend and I all jumped into a few 2v1 matches. I had so much fun and saw how amazing it was first hand but was also really sad when I realized I missed a solid title.

3. When a game ad doesn't show gameplay, my first instinct is to expect the game to suck assume the marketers are trying to hide that with pre-rendered fakery.

4. Oh man, I remember when I saw the first ever Beat Saber video. It was a short gameplay of $100 Bills. There were no captions, no explanation, only beat and saber swings. I don't think I was more excited about anything ever.

5. Wow I never really thought about it! I absolutely agree, VR game trailers should be made and treated the same way as pancake AAA titles

6. The lone echo trailer looks amazing!

7. DVD logo hit the corner at 4:38

8. I just finished my 19 hour VR marathon on

9. Whys it seem like I'm the only one who doesnt shit on the space junkies trailer? I thought it was great.
   Why do you think a multiplayer arena game shouldve done its trailer more like a story narrative type?

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11. I agree with the fact that I already know it's a VR game so the trailer doesn't need to remind me every few seconds but, on the other hand I hate cinematic trailers because it's not the truth about the game, I want gameplay trailers.

12. 1000% Mr President!

13. Great informative Eric! 😉

14. Three rules for VR Devs to follow:

    1: VR is NOT "Content"….. If done well, it is a "Content" AMPLIFIER!
    2: Multiplayer is a feature, NOT "Content".
    3: SEE RULE 1 ……
    ;0)

15. 4:37 it hit the corner :O

16. Also not all gaming Devs have the money to create trailers like lone echo or
    Gears of war

17. What we really want is immersion like in ready player one. With haptic feedback

18. I do not agree with you on the trailers (I did not find anything special about the 'good one') BUT Space Junkies probably did something wrong if they have sold so few copies that they are discontinuing it's development.

19. It's a good point. But it's a problem that's existed since VR first really exploded onto the scene, even as early as the 90's. People today are just more difficult to convince because they want instant results, or the final product. That's not how the first gen of VR works, so selling it to them is extra difficult because we're now in a gaming culture that likes the massive budget, pretty visuals spectacle over an actual game that seeks to push the envelope, and if it doesn't look good and have the pin sharp UHD visuals and 60fps watermark, then it'll get shit on or passed over. Convincing people what VR actually is, and that it has to run games with cut down visuals, but offers an immersion that a standard game just can't even remotely touch is a hard sell, because you have to experience the thing first hand with actual hardware than show it off in a trailer, because you just instantly lose the VR aspect of it doing that. I think you're spot on in that you have to show a game that stands up on its own merit, rather than trying to push the fact that its VR,. Not only this, but you have to show something that can only be done in VR to intrigue the viewer into wanting to try it. It's not going to be easily solved. Not currently at any rate.

20. I think VR games need demos first and foremost. So many times I've seen a game that looks good but think "I can spend $25 or 30 this, or I can get a case for my HMD, 3D printed Knuckle style controller holders, a VR cover etc. If a game is good and a Dev is proud of their work, a demo should be a given. Also, 2 of my favorite games I nearly passed on because I didn't know if I would like the controls/ gameplay (Ultrawings and Sairento)

21. Your background is getting so many VR things. You brought up some really good points and we definently need to get some good trailers. How's work been?

22. Unfortunately the VR space is very young and the need to let gamers know in every trailer is a product of that. It doesn't really bother me but I do understand. It will get better and games with a narrative will have an easier time with this yet games like space junkies probably will put VR in your face first.

23. Boi lone echo is a story game so no shit ther not going to show the person playing it thats the whole point of a story game so comparing it with a multilayer game thats all about the player is a comparison

24. Good job on another great one Eric

25. It's fine to mention it in a subtle way, like start off with a kid puting on a PSVR or something, then just play it like any other trailer.

26. I was with you until your dvd screen saver is in the background and I was just watching it hoping it would hit perfectly in the corner.. haha

27. Yeah I agree. The trailer for Space Junkies is a direct copy of the movie, Gamer, which regularly shows the mental, close-up reactions of the actual players in the game. The reason why it fails is that the viewer can't relate or connect with those people: they're weird and annoying and don't sell the game.

28. Sorry but ATM it looks like Gears of War 5 isn't looking great. It has potential but it's the worst launch yet.

29. that's all trailers now mate, publishers/devs have become greedy, lying scumbags and trailers of any sort even movie trailers are flat out lies.

30. As a starting VR developer, something I feel is obvious is that trailers should be in VR (360°), or at least have a VR version! But no developers are giving that option… Great video as always!

31. 4:38 dat bump.

32. F mic

33. Lol

    When you said let's now show a good vr trailer I knew it was going to be Lone Echo

    That game does soooooooo many things right

    PS

    Great topic and discussion. I agree the trailer and media behind a VR game launch or any game launch should be a reflection of how good the same is. This being said everyone has different triggers and I would image creating a trailer is not an easy task. I prefer to see game play and not a much cut scenes ect BUT that being said story is also important to me and that is usually relayed via cut scenes and pretty graphics.

34. This is basically the equivalent of those cringe worthy 80s game commercials that spent most of their screen time showing close ups of over excited kids waving their controllers around, or leaning side to side at the PC. "Wow! Look at this new gaming thing! How exciting! See how hyped these kids are? That can be you too! VIDEO GAMES!"
    People who have VR don't need to be sold VR. Sell the game, not the platform. One naturally leads to the other. If your game footage isn't compelling enough to sell on it's own, the reverse was never going to work anyway.

35. I do agree. I also find the lack of VR video content of these VR Trailers to be more disturbing. I should be able to go into YouTube in VR, play a VR Game trailer and be completely immersed in the trailer. I get what you are saying in terms of selling VR to those who never played it, but in general I mean. A lot of VR games would benefit if they also release 360 video content.

36. Loved this topic !!! Awesome one!

37. yes a game has to be able to stand on it's own. However I think With VR some games/activities can be more interesting than if there were in a pancake game. This having to do with presence and willing suspension of disbelief, something that many people seem to actively fight against. In the instance of the more 'artsy' trailers that don't convey the hook of a game, what you didn't include was that , to be successful, they are a part of a larger barrage of marketing that is shows why we should care. The initial GOW wild world trailer was after weeks(months?) of Cliffy B talking about how he had to get people to trust him about the chainsaw gun along with gameplay and tech showcases. Where the Spacejunkies commercial was pretty much on it's own as far as the wider VR public was concerned. If nothing else it looks like the end of a commercial campaign where now that we have had commercials 1-3 showing you the meat and bones mechanics here is some goofy fun you can do because you're in vr.

    instead they just skipped to the end.

38. Guess I'm the only one the liked the Space Junkies trailer….

39. Great analogy buddy!

40. Correct. I think there must be more DEMOS! I want try before I buy. Is hard to make demo?

41. You as a VR Youtuber, surely find creative Topics to create content.
    i like enjoying these golden nuggets!!

42. Totally agree – if you have VR, you know the deal and want to know what the game is actually about, not what you already know. If you are not into VR, you probably have a negative view and switch off as soon as VR is pushed in your face. Far better to have someone watch a game trailer (as you say) on its own merits – then have them think 'Damn – this is in VR?…. now I am interested in VR'.

    On a side note – when I watch a trailer there is just one thing I am looking for – 'what is this game?' Best trailer I saw recently was for Greedfall – it just had someone calmly telling you what the game was about, the elements of the gameplay were, and the stuff I actually needed to know: The lack of hype was refreshing!

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44. I have a difficult problem. How I get those guns?

45. I remember watching both Gears 1 and 2 trailers back then and my reaction was "meh, show me gameplay, I want a video game, not a movie".

    On the subject of the VR trailers I agree. The Space Junkies trailer feels like typical 90's "hey dude, this VR game is radical! watch how excited this guy looks playing our VR game! you could be like him too if you purchase our VR game! Did we mention the game is in VR?"

    But there should be at least SOME indication that the game is in VR. Lone Echo's trailer could pass as a TV game to the untrained eye. I have seen plenty people excited about game trailers like that one then go "Oh, it's VR, what a shame" once I tell them.

46. This is unfortunately a product of gaming company Promotional depts not really knowing how to market them differently from non VR games and relying on old school advertising gimmicks. That’s not to say there aren’t companies who are doing it. Just not enough of them. I agree that VR needs to move out of its niche and into mainstream before the use of cheap VR gimmicks goes away.

47. I completely disagree with everything you just said. VR is absolutely a selling point for any game and making it clear that it’s a VR game is very important. There are times when an okay game is elevated by being in VR. Case in point: Superhot. The pancake version of Superhot didn’t sell anywhere near as well as the VR version.

48. Why is nobody talking about echo vr coming to the quest?

49. trailers? lol get good reviews by making good games that actually work

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