Is Fairphone really fair?

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2. The problem with Apple isn't the plastic in the packaging but all of the slaves building them and the amount of ewaste they create by being the epitome of anti-right to repair and therefore being the model that so many other companies are now following.

3. Ive already been recommending fairphone to some of the tech savier friends i know because they are willing to make those compromises, i personally would have bought a fairphone not too long ago because my old realme x2 pro didnt get any software support anymore.(all of this was when the 5 wasnt out yet) But they removed the headphone jack on the 4 and the specs just werent up there to make it a worthy daily for me. So i bought a moto edge 40, simply because i wanted to give curved screens and the whole motorola gestures thing a try. Tldr i disliked the curved screen, battery life was too short and now i have to sell it 2nd hand for half what is was worth when new just a few months ago. Also the lack of the hp jack pissed me off. So now i switched to the galaxy a52s that i got with my contract, running lineage os on it and hope i ll be able to keep it for many years to come.

   Fairphones will only be interesting for me personally if they add the headphone jack back because it is such an important feature for me to have. Also please dont remove the micro sd slot, thanks. Fuck dongles and fuck bluetooth headphones, i use them and i dislike everything about them besides the sound quality

4. I love the concept of the Fairphone and wouldn't mind owning one in the future. The only thing which is holding me back at the moment is that I also care a lot about picture quality. As soon as they can have atleast one flagship camera module I will switch.

5. Can't wait to get a fairphone (or a ShiftPhone) and a Framework Laptop in the future. Now we need the same for Tablets!

6. Apples idea of stopping e-waste is basically a pretty and cool slideshow with pretty an corperate words that smother over the whole..
   craptons of Apple products that can be repaired and reused.. NOT being repaired and reused.. because e-waste sites get sued into the ground when they even touch say an iPhone XR that can be refurbished and rused.. yet Apple likes to go on these message drewls about 'saving the planet' .. yea, thats why you had your sweatshops install anti-self-delete netting, instead of.. well.. actually seeing WHY the workers were comitting self-deletion.

7. I think this phone is a complete wet fart.
   If you want to make stuff modular and environmentally friendly, giving options to users is a must… And they went the route of all the other brands of removing the audio jack.
   I just bought a samsung m34, switching from a s22ultra because its pros did not add to make the trade-offs of the lost audio jack and micro sd slot worth.
   I have the same 128GB microsd card from way back 2013~14 with my personal music collection and things and nothing beats simply removing the microsd card from one phone to the new one and have no downtime or no transfer proceedure…
   I was really interested in the fairphone 5 until I saw the lack of audio jack, and yeah, it is a big issue. If you are going to remove such a standard, remove it for at least something that is on par with what we used to have.
   Having to charge wireless earphones everyday, latency and battery consumption makes it a way worse deal than to simply have the audio jack and a good pair of wired earphones.

8. Another idea I like about Fairphone's moduarity, if they choose to work it, is custoizationability. I may, say, choose to put a standard HDR camera and a FLIR thermal camera module in mine, whereas someone else may put cameras of different focal lengths and refresh rates for example. Still, there's a lot that I do like about it.

9. As a German, being able to support a European tech company instead of tax dodging corporations is already reason enough for me. Greetings to all my Dutch fellows, one love🥦

   oh yeah, my work is also connected to FairTrade, so there's that. definately my next phone.

10. I think the idea is great, but I feel when you talk about tI upgraded my 6 year old ZTE Axon 7 early this year. It was by no means a flagship, but in comparison it made the Fairphone 4 look lacking considering the time gap between products and me as a consumer unsure if the device can support the time frame I want from it and they claim to support it for. Which is unfortunate. I keep and take care of my phones, at 31 I am on my 4th phone ever. Two of those pre Smartphone era. In theory the Fairphone should be perfect for someone like me and if I knew about the 2, 3 or 3+ at the time I bought my last phone I would have gotten one for sure. However the 4 and by extension the 5::: I don’t know man, there is a lot of odd choices that happened with them. I get it, they want to appeal to a broader demographic. Better Cameras, waterproofing and all other things that are standard. However by doing so and following industry trends they put themselves in unique potion compared to other companies with lower product life cycles. Those don’t need care if a trend fades and an old device is weird and clunky for it. As Fairphone you claim that your device shouldn’t be discarded after a few years. Things like empty space for future camera modules support that, but lack of a headphone jack contradicts that. Like it or not batteries die and that can and will render wireless headphones and ear buds dead. I feel like that should be the last thing they want to do. Yet it is the thing they’ve done. Same with the (for them) quick release of the 5 due to the 4s specs being so bad. Both of those things make me uncertain if this will just be another OnePlus kind of thing. Where it started great, but once it got big it became just another gear in the big corp world. I know a few people with a Fairphone 3 and 3+ and they are equally confused and uncertain with those moves. They now got the very issue they wanted to get away from. It is worth it to buy this years model or should I get the next one?hem you have to

11. One major point to take into consideration is the amount of money Apple is taking in from an audience that is hostage to one store.

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13. Screw Apple. I'd go with other brands that has reasonable price points, and I've been using Dell laptop, Samsung Phones and now Poco x3 pro as my gaming Phone for two years now and they all serve me well. I'd get that Fair Phone when it's available in our country.

14. Now you made me wanting to switch from my FP4 to 5. What am I going to do with the 4!??😅🤣

15. I‘m currently using the old IPhone SE, which is idk 10 years old, idc, I already had screen and battery replaced, but the screen is already cracked af again lol and now the case needs tape, but I‘m holding on, if I ever get another one it’s probably gonna be a Fairphone

16. You are using apple products. The leading company in fucking the consumer and the environment over.
    Great start.
    Further, the fact that you CAN repair it is a huge win in and of itself, before doing all the other analysis. It gives us an option to vote with out wallets. The added bulk is just a bonus in my opinion.
    Apple has been trying to show that they support right to repair etc. and has always failed because it is just easier and cheaper to buy a new one or get them to fix it (swap out the phone most likely) after all.
    Further, there latest bid for the California right to repair thing is almost guaranteed to have some kind of loophole for them to technically support it without providing any increase in repairability.

    So yes, you do need phones like the fairphone.

17. i kept my fairphone3 for 5 years, lost it, bought a fairphone4 , always ve been happy with them.

18. I'd try one but I am very stubborn and will continue to use phone's with an audio jack until there are none left

19. we should demand as customers for everybody to go this way, imagine having that on a pixel 8, it just would be a killer feature for android i would get back to android phones without even thinking about it.

20. Fair enough

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